• Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    The demograpic downturn started decades before that, but in the west it was (and to some extent still is) hidden by immigration.

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      8 days ago

      You’re obfuscating: It’s been well documented that the availability of resources is inversely correlated to birthrates. We’ve had as much dropoff since the phone as we did since the industrial revolution. You’re calling two different rates of drop the same because they’re both drops; that’s not how math works.

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        6 days ago

        I didn’t create demographic trends older than I am to obfuscate anything.

        Demographically most of the world has shown an explosion of population as industrialization of agriculture, medicine, and sanitation almost eliminate famines and childhood disease. And then you see the curve go down. Often all the way to negative. This is repeating in other countries, and just like they’re catching up faster economically, the social results are following as well. I’m not as sure about other countries, but Canada would have had negative growth since the 80s if not for immigration.

        So, while smartphones might be a factor, they can’t be the primary or only cause of a trend that predates their existence by over a quarter of a century.