Please see this subsection of An Anarchist FAQ. In particular, in the extraordinarily rare cases where “forcefully isolating them from society” is the only sensible solution (which is rare even in modern carceral societies, so I expect to be even rarer in anarchist societies), this does not necessarily mean creating a prison complex and keeping the offender in a cage!
Precisely how this will work will be determined by free people based on the circumstances they face. All we can do is sketch out likely possibilities and make suggestions.
So they have no idea how to actually confront significant anti social backlash
We absolutely do have ideas on how to confront antisocial backlash, and in fact some ideas are discussed on the page and in the references. It’s just that we’re not willing to impose “solution A is the only right solution” or “solution B always works” because anarchist societies are to be worked out by the free people for the people based on each community’s unique circumstances.
There are no large-scale anarchist societies because capitalism and state are constantly destroying even small-scale anarchist and other leftist projects through sheer numbers and force. We actually did have large-scale anarchist societies in Spain and Ukraine.
Well in all fairness you do need to be able to defend your society from external threats or it is not a viable society, at least while those external threats exist
If Russia succeeded in invading Ukraine would your talking point be that Ukraine was a failure because they couldn’t defeat someone multiple times bigger on their own?
Historically they failed because they were against larger countries, and because more often than not they were backstabbed by tankies.
Go look at the Zapatista in Chiapas to see some of them still fighting and controlling their lands today. Go look at the Rojava to see how they are dying due to being outnumbered fighting US/EU funded ISIS via Türkiye/Syria. Or go look at Ukraine and the black army to see how they died due to trusting tankies.
Anarchism does not mean you aren’t mobilised and armed to fight your enemies, it is just as capable of that as any other peoples have been.
Please see this subsection of An Anarchist FAQ. In particular, in the extraordinarily rare cases where “forcefully isolating them from society” is the only sensible solution (which is rare even in modern carceral societies, so I expect to be even rarer in anarchist societies), this does not necessarily mean creating a prison complex and keeping the offender in a cage!
So they have no idea how to actually confront significant anti social backlash
We absolutely do have ideas on how to confront antisocial backlash, and in fact some ideas are discussed on the page and in the references. It’s just that we’re not willing to impose “solution A is the only right solution” or “solution B always works” because anarchist societies are to be worked out by the free people for the people based on each community’s unique circumstances.
I guess that’s also why there are no anarchist societies
There are no large-scale anarchist societies because capitalism and state are constantly destroying even small-scale anarchist and other leftist projects through sheer numbers and force. We actually did have large-scale anarchist societies in Spain and Ukraine.
Well in all fairness you do need to be able to defend your society from external threats or it is not a viable society, at least while those external threats exist
Good thing anarchists don’t oppose being able to defend ourselves from monsters. 🙂
That doesn’t actually address how anarchist societies are supposed to defend themselves against the militant hierarchical ones next door or abroad
It just says trust me bro we can handle whatever comes our way when irl they all failed
You shoot them.
If Russia succeeded in invading Ukraine would your talking point be that Ukraine was a failure because they couldn’t defeat someone multiple times bigger on their own?
Historically they failed because they were against larger countries, and because more often than not they were backstabbed by tankies.
Go look at the Zapatista in Chiapas to see some of them still fighting and controlling their lands today. Go look at the Rojava to see how they are dying due to being outnumbered fighting US/EU funded ISIS via Türkiye/Syria. Or go look at Ukraine and the black army to see how they died due to trusting tankies.
Anarchism does not mean you aren’t mobilised and armed to fight your enemies, it is just as capable of that as any other peoples have been.
If all of the criminals are locked up in a psychiatric ward, what makes that any better than prison?
At least in prison, the guards aren’t allowed to drug you without your consent.
That’s…not what I said.