• GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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      2 days ago

      Since you asked, Biden increased police, ICE, and detention center funding to their highest levels. Because of Biden’s 69 cop cities across the country local police and ICE are being trained by IDF, the same people that trained Derek Chauvin when he murdered James Floyd. Before he left office he requested an additional 42k detention center beds be created.

      Biden was enabling, paying for, and funding that genocide then denying there was one. Harris wanted the world most lethal military while reiterating Israel has a right to exist and rh is will protect their interests.

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      3 days ago

      My friend, read a bit of history, your whole society is based on genocide and exploitation.

      I am not defending trump nor biden because the whole country should be treated as the Chernobyl exclusion zone.

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      4 days ago

      How many were active during biden’s campaign, how many did he not shut down?

      Why was nothing done about abortion rights?

      Why did he support (and not just “not being vocal” about) the israeli state during an active genocide?

      Your “blue team” is just as complicit.

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        I don’t think the person you’re replying to is defending Biden. It isn’t a defense of Biden’s failure to act to say that Trump is, quite obviously, worse in every aspect. It is insane to think otherwise because the genocide got WORSE under Trump.

        The point is that dipshits/losers/morons/accelerationists sit here and say both sides are bad, when one side is actively worse and they do not care that the one obviously worse side is killing multiple-folds more people while they pretend to smugly assert how good it must be to choose no evil while everyone else struggles to work with the hand they’ve been forcibly dealt.

        You let me know when you step up and assassinate a billionaire, alright, bud? I’ll respect your stance then.

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          Want to hear something interesting though? Trump is actually not worse than Obama in every way.

          Trump has deported 1.5 million people across all of his years in office so far. Want to guess how many Obama deported?

          3 million.

          So actually Trump is the lesser evil when it comes to deportations if you take this approach.

          The reality is that they’re both horrible but for different reasons.

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            12 hours ago

            I think that is a really gross thing to say from someone who didn’t pay attention to the ongoing rapes of children in ICE concentration camps. I think that’s a gross thing to say to the militarized presence of ICE kidnapping people as they left their court hearings to be here. I think that’s a gross thing to say to the people attacked by ICE for protecting their neighbors. I think that’s a gross thing to say to the people who got married and had to pick up their partner’s green card because they were arresting them and shipping them all over the country.

            To say that it’s a smaller number is insane because it treats immigrants not as people that are still suffering right now (I have neighbors that still can’t fucking go to work because ICE is still here), but as numbers and this one is smaller. That is such a dumb and pathetic argument that it shows you as hopelessly heartless or desperately dumb, and I don’t thing it matters which is worse.

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              12 hours ago

              That’s literally what harm reducer less evil people are saying. “Dropping 50 bombs is better than dropping 51 bombs” and “50 concentration camps is better than 51”.

              If you agree that reducing it down to just these raw numbers is disgusting, congratulations, you got the point! Lesser evil voting is pretty disgusting. Thank you for playing.

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                12 hours ago

                You just said 1.5 million apples are better than 3 million oranges.

                So, you’re not even right in that vein.

                But, like, if they were the same degree wrong, 1.5 million would be better, right? Or do you disagree?

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                  12 hours ago

                  I disagree with the entire framing of harm reduction as a valid reason to vote for the lesser evil in elections. I think it’s absurd and horribly wrong for exactly the reasons you stated. 1.5M is actually less than 3M, but that doesn’t mean it’s harm reduction.

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                    Harm reduction doesn’t always mean harm. It does eventually mean that things that do nothing are better than harm, and things that do more good are better than less good. But right now, harm is being caused no matter how you choose. So if you are forced to pick, you should pick less. Every time.

        • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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          2 days ago

          We don’t care about your respect, we don’t respect anything liberals do while defending empire and their shade of fascism

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            13 hours ago

            “Everyone is a liberal that disagrees with me” is a great lie to tell yourself at night.