• queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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    1 month ago

    Because you larp about revolution that will never come.

    “Tankies” can look to the actually existing socialist revolutions, both historical and ongoing, and be inspired by revolutions that actually came and the new world they’re actually building. There’s real things happening in the real world right now. Our revolutions have come in different parts of the world, and those revolutions are ongoing as we speak. Hence: actually existing socialism.

    China lifted 800 million people out of poverty over the past four decades. Their population’s life expectancy now exceeds the US’s.

    What do you even have?

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      1 month ago

      What do you even have?

      Not being a genocidal capitalist state engaged in suppressing LGBT and other peoples. Your argument is literally no different to any non-US neolib, “oh but we improved the material conditions and have a higher life expectancy than the US” but at least they can claim to be having some social freedoms.

      If your entire argument is “we’re like neolibs but worse” you’re doing a terrible job selling your ideology.

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        I didn’t ask what you don’t have. What do you have? What has your movement built?

        China still has its internal contradictions and flaws, but they also have sovereignty. They have an independent nation that’s only getting better, they’re actually building a future. Whatever criticisms of them we can have, they’re going somewhere. Life in China has only gotten better and will keep getting better, which is more than any imperial subject can say in the declining empire.

        You, however, have divorced yourself from this actually existing revolution. So, what do you have? Some zines? Some online discussions? Little co-ops and cults? You’re nothing, and you’ll always be nothing. If you and every single anti-tankie “”“revolutionary”“” like you suddenly vanished, nothing would change. You have had zero impact on history and you never will.

        All you can do is attack and criticize other revolutionary projects. You can’t build anything yourself.

        China is changing the world. You can’t change anything at all.

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          What we have is people’s liberation as they fight against oppression. As they defend themselves in Rojava, in Chiapas, as they fight fascism and squat in communities across the world and seek to survive the brutality of the state.

          You may be happy to trade freedoms for material gains, all you capitalists are. You sell the people out for a shiny new product, while your factories exploit the poor to line the pockets of your billionaires.

          We have class struggle, you have fascism.

          Now get the fuck out of here class traitor.