• SalamenceFury@piefed.social
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    6 days ago

    If you knew what it was you’d understand that gen AI is such thing. It steals the intellectual power of others to create dumbed down slop with the goal of making the general public less educated and reliant on it. It’s a trap made by technofascist billionaires to keep the masses from taking all of their heads, and this administration just happens to be all in on that too, using it for surveillance to disappear minorities and political opponents.

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      I disagree with multiple assertions you’ve made. It doesn’t steal anything. Neither does it have a goal. People using it may steal, and those with the most successful products may have goals - but that’s not the technology. This is like saying guns are fascist. Or cars are fascist. Or phones are fascist.

      It’s a tool, and like any tool, the motive and ethics of it’s use is directly attributable to the user, not the tool.

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        The motive and ethics are from the tech companies that created them. Those are the ones with technofascist aspirations.

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          Some, yes, not all. No one company created the technology. You can’t use a blanket accusation to condemn all forms of machine learning just because Altman (OpenAI), Zuckerberg (Meta) and Elon Musk are obvious fascists, and they’re championing the technology. Call them out specifically, it’s more effective than “all AI bad.”

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            I’m specifically talking about LLMs and generative AI. Those are NOT the same as machine learning because they don’t learn anything, they’re text predictive algorithms that were given infinite amounts of resources.

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              And? They’re still tools. They exist. They can be used for things other than fascism. Just today I used an LLM to determine the area of a plot of land from a satellite photograph. I used generative AI to create a phone wallpaper background that matched my phone case.

              Did the fascists gain power over me?

              Do you think it have been better if I spent my time manually measuring the area, determining the math, and calculating the area of land? Should I have made an inferior version of the wallpaper manually?

              If you think so, you must have more time and creative talent than me. Enjoy your privilege, but don’t shame those without.

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                I used an LLM to determine the area of a plot of land from a satellite photograph.

                I don’t think that’s possible unless the LLM has access to the satellite to mile ratio. Likely an hallucination.

                I used generative AI to create a phone wallpaper background that matched my phone case.

                Stealing from artists 🙄

                you must have more time and creative talent than me.

                Art is not about talent, it’s about continuous, rigorous training and improvement over years. It’s not a privilege. You can literally pick up a pencil and some paper and draw right now. It’s not something that is somehow inaccessible, hell I’ve seen a furry artist draw an anthro dragoness pin up with nothing but a burning stick and a rock. Also, there’s people out there that are completely paralyzed that can paint with their mouths. There’s millions of pictures in the internet that you could find to match your phone case that weren’t made with a plagiarism machine.

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                  I don’t think that’s possible unless the LLM has access to the satellite to mile ratio. Likely an hallucination.

                  It did. The screenshot was from Google Maps which had the scale in the corner. I tried searching for a Google Maps plugin that offered the same functionality, but I couldn’t find any that would let me free form draw a shape on the map. So I took a screenshot, drew a red shape, and gave it to Gemini. It showed me all the steps it was going through, the math looked legit and seemed realistic to me.

                  Stealing from artists 🙄

                  How is it stealing from an artist? No artist created it. This is even less like stealing than downloading pirated films. In both cases, no one lost anything. Are you arguing that had I not had access to generative AI that I would have sought out and paid someone to craft a wallpaper for me? I would not have. I’d just use some free art online. Where is the theft? Are you saying someone, somewhere already created my exact wallpaper? Shall I upload it, and you can tell me where it already exists and I could have purchased it?

                  Art is not about talent, it’s about continuous, rigorous training and improvement over years.

                  Yes, time. I don’t have those years. I spent my years studying machine learning instead.