There’s a clear campaign against the mentally ill with the global rise of fascism. Lots of it shows up in anti homeless rhetoric, but you can see it in the MAHA and anti vaccination movements.

There’s no reason to use the word “r-tarded” to describe someone. As someone who’s worked with the intellectually challenged, it’s an insult to them to compare them with people who are willfully ignorant.

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    These stupid wars on words IMHO is the reason why “liberals” were regarded as a joke prior to trump election

    Like banning “master” in github as well as dumb, regex based words filters in chats. Oh you want to mention the “beta version”? Too bad, a social justice warrior decided that “beta” is now offensive, you have to change your language so that you wont affect the hypothetic easily offendable persons

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      Like banning “master” in github as well as dumb

      Master wasn’t banned. The default name was changed from master to main. Literally nothing is stopping you from choosing to use master.

      • While this is technically correct, when you say “we’re switching the default branch name from master to main to be less culturally insensitive”, you kind of imply that people who continue using master are culturally insensitive. And nobody likes being called that (generally), so it still feels like a ban to people.

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    i’m austistic and love the word retard, really don’t understand peoples need to be offended for others. it’s not remotely close to the n-word, saying “r-word” just makes you seem like a tool imo

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    There’s a historical cycle where the helping professions rotate the terminology out, as the wider culture overloads the old terms with insulting usage. Eventually the new vernacular leaks out into general parlance and the cycle cycles. “Retarded” was once acceptable clinical terminology because "idiot, “moron”, and “imbecile” had accumulated cultural baggage. The latter terms were, themselves, once politically correct alternatives to even older terms.

    I think it’s naive to think that THIS time is special, and today’s politically correct terminology won’t ever leak out into common usage as a slur too.

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      If a group of people are telling me this word was and continues to be used as a dehumanizing slur, that’s enough for me to look into a vocabulary change. More importantly, the very existence of a euphemism treadmill shows that you can’t stop at language change, and that disabled people need to be much more fully accepted in society.

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    When you stop being offended by letters on a page and direct that hate towards the individuals that use the word as a slur or out of context on purpose, you’ll be a lot happier.

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      People aren’t upset about the word. They’re upset with the people using the word. Telling people to not use the word like that is how they’re “directing that hate.” People are already doing the thing you’re saying they should do.

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      I’m not offended by “faggot” because of its shape, I’m offended by it because it takes me back to when Meathead John crushed my throat in the playground calling me it until I would ask him to beat up the boy i liked instead.

      Words represent, communicate and are something. Humans have for the entirety of their use of language, understood that the signifier and the signified are interchangeable.

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        I’m very sorry for your experience, but without knowing you and your history, I can’t possibly know all of that. So I’m left with two choices - sharply limit my vocabulary in the hopes of avoiding making some random person feel bad; or acknowledge that each adult is best qualified to carry and deal with their own traumas.

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          You don’t have to limit your vocabulary at all, you merely cannot escape the perception of others based on your behavior.

          It’s not even limited to humans either - animals, insects will perceive and treat you differently depending on your behavior.

          Nothing prevents you from kicking a dog, but the dog and anyone who knows about it will treat you accordingly.

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            Sure, but if you equate me with someone who kicks a dog just because I talk about master or slave database nodes, or the need to retard message rates - I’m also going to treat you accordingly.

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              And honestly that’s fair. If I’m sitting in a meeting and you’re trying to browbeat me into calling something a slave in front of some African American co-workers, or you’re talking about retarding something while someone explains they don’t like that term because their child has Downs Syndrome, you are welcome to think we’re foolish for caring - but I can’t imagine that Any Given Person would walk away thinking you’ve gotten the upper hand there

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                Oh look, somebody else is trying to cast me as a monster because I refuse to be politically correct in a technical context. You should probably also demonize me for the fact that I live my life in a wheelchair and will occasionally refer to myself as ‘gimpy’.

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                  I’m not trying to cast you as anything, I’m extrapolating real world events from your theoretical responses.

                  The term “politically correct” is a thought terminating cliche. it’s meant to detach real world experience from hypothetical situations. “Political” here is meant to cast the discussion on what the government is doing, I am not talking about the government, therefore whether this is politically correct or not is irrelevant.

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    ITT: people making excuses for using what they know is a hateful word.

    Just use a different word. That’s it. It’s very simple. Use literally anything else. People are acting like we’re about to stick a probe up their ass.

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      This creates another problem.

      “Don’t say ‘retard,’ it’s offensive.” “Okay, I’ll say ‘xxx’ instead.”

      One week later:

      “Don’t say ‘xxx,’ it’s offensive.”

      God knows how many senseless words are going to have to be made just to say one thing. Just say retard. If people don’t like it, they can get mad or ignore it. One way or another, life is moving on.

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        I agree. The word retarded was adopted because it was technically correct and less offensive than others words that had been used previously. It didn’t feel offensive in the 70s.

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            I think the pushback is more from some small group of voices telling everyone what words they must use or are not allowed to use. People will always resist compelled speech even when the specifics aren’t actually important to them.