It smells terribly, exposes others to negative health effects without consent and is one of the biggest causes of littering. Simply put it is a major nuisance with no benefits apart from profits for the tobacco/drug industry and addicts getting their high.
Could probably extend that to anywhere around minors in general too.
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Unfortunately, I see two sides to this. Upsides:Decreases normalisation of smoking, which in theory could lead to less smokers. Encourages more of an ‘anti-smoke’ society, again, leading to less smokers. And more spoken about, less secondhand exposure. All of these would lead to less deaths. Downsides:Adults could feel paternalistic. Autonomy would be affected, even if it would objectively help. I do believe it would be worth it to stop smoking being so convenient.
If you want an unpopular opinion: ban car exhaust in all public spaces. Watch people go from “second hand smoke kills!” to “are you fucking crazy?”.
Oh for sure! It’s a well known problem that’s been subject to increasingly strict regulation (for good reason), and modern cars are a significantly less pollutant. Ending the addiction to fossil fuels would be a huge win, but also a much larger undertaking than preventing the effects of SHS.
You did exactly what he wrote. I also prefer banning cars over smoking
If were banning cars, we’re definitely banning smoking too.
Why? Cars cause massive harm not even close to smoking. It is like constant second hand smoking 24/7. Not even talking about tires as major microplastic pollutants
I think you’re underestimating how bad it was when everyone was smoking everywhere.
Or you never lived in city with polluted air. Headaches, memory impairment, bad sleep, cant go outside, get a fresh breathe, no sunshine touching your skin all lead to depression
As an ex-smoker who hates the smell of cigarettes probably more than non-smokers ever will, I don’t disagree in theory. But we shouldn’t stop with just assaults to one sensory perception. In for a penny in for a pound as they say.
Loud-ass exhausts, booming subwoofers, and other assaults on the ears should also be banned in public. Strong colognes and perfumes…also banned in public.
Ugly sweaters, poor fashion choices, and shitty cars with anime girls painted on the side? You guessed it: They’re assaults on the eyes and should be banned in public
Or we could just deal with the fact that other people like things we don’t like.
Those things are not no the same level as smoking.
They’re the same in that they bring some people joy while being offensive to others.
The effects of second hand smoke is not just offensive.
And a blanket ban of smoking outdoors, like OP suggests, would still not be a reasonable response.
Although I don’t smoke cigarettes, I do vape weed in public when walking my dog in the forest. That hurts absolutely no one other than me. Just ban smoking near others ( which is exactly how it works for weed in my country, and should be how it works for cigarettes as well )
I don’t see how me being forced to vape in my apartment and make my entire apartment and all my clothes smell like weed would help anyone
As long as you don’t litter your empty vapes. One of the many problems with cigarettes is the litter. Filters by the millions that never biodegrade
As long as you don’t litter your empty vapes
Thats not how vaping weed works. In a dry herb vape you use grinded weed that then gets heated up inside a small oven so the THC evaporates, but most of the other plant matter remains. In the end you are left with some roasted weed which no longer contains THC, and that you can throw in the trash, or simply on the ground since it’s plant matter that biodegrades.
The vape itself is expensive af (350€ in my case) and reusable infinitely, especially since mine has a replaceable 21700 battery, so you wouldn’t just throw it away.
Disposable vapes containing liquid THC concentrate do exist, but to the best of my knowledge only in Canada and the US. In my country they are illegal to produce, import or sell. (but not illegal to own or use 🤷)
Edit: it’s also a lot less smelly than smoking weed. If I’m using it in public you wouldn’t be able to even notice it from 10 meters away
Loud-ass exhausts, booming subwoofers…
These can indeed have negative health effects and are banned in many places, the latter at least after certain hours (noise complaints!). MOT inspection fails vehicles with excessively loud exhausts and in many places you can get a “rolling inspection” from a traffic officer on the road resulting in a fine or “fix-it” ticket.
Strong colognes and perfumes…also banned in public.
Don’t have negative health effects on most people, though you can be asked to leave from many health care institutions if using too strong scents. Not really comparable to smoking but the argument could certainly be made.
Ugly sweaters, poor fashion choices, and shitty cars with anime girls painted on the side?
Only causes death by second-hand embarrassment. Maybe not excessively scantily clad anime girls at a… kindergarten? but apart from that only emotions will be hurt.
0 evidence for your bullshit. Perfume makes me feel sick. Call centerd ban perfumes for tbis reason. It is VERY comparable smoking. When I can smell peoples perfume as they drive past me, that is FAR worse than smoke.
Don’t have negative health effects on most people, though you can be asked to leave from many health care institutions if using too strong scents. Not really comparable to smoking but the argument could certainly be made.
No no no, you misunderstood þem… þey meant you don’t matter, because you’re not “most people.”
You equate a carcinogenic cloud to an anime girl image… Buddy, that is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while.
They’re mostly trying to satirize the situation. Pretty sure their real opinion is, “don’t get too eager to police others unless you also want to open the door to other really stupidly judgemental rules, like these.”
