• Deceptichum@quokk.auOPM
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    2 days ago

    Class, Capitalism, and the State are nothing but manifestations of Authority. To defeat them, we must defeat authority.

    I understand Liberals believe they can reform the state and Communists think they can wield it to bring about these changes.

    I however do not think it can be redeemed. And as history and ‘AES’ shows it always bounces back to oppressive authoritarianism of the people.

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      AES and history continue to exist in a world with the external pressure of capitalism, which is why it bounces back. You can’t know if it’s inherent until capitalism is removed. If it is the case that it is inherent, you will find yourself with significantly more allies than now, but the only way to gain those allies is through defeating capitalism.

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            In the end the real point is, what use are allies that are working towards completely opposite goals? “AES” countries are steadily working towards being the boot that stomps on a human face forever, and I don’t want that boot to exist.

            I don’t care of the aesthetics of the oppressive system, I don’t care for vague promises of self-dissolving power structures that can’t ever be held to any sort of accountability.

            The only way to socialism is through actual changes in organisational structure, which to this day “AES” has only shown to go towards de facto kingdoms, top down bureaucracies that give way to capitalism, and mafia states.

            All the while smothering any other sort of large scale organisation, both directly and indirectly for a century.

            There is nothing to be gained from allying with anyone who identifies with these states for any person or organisation that wants liberation.

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              20 hours ago

              And I don’t care about perfect movements; better to have tried than not. The only reason AES states are celebrated at all is because they continue to exist. I’d love some actual examples of how they continue to “smother” other organizations. Show me some AEA locations/movements/orgs that have successfully resisted, at the very least, western imperialist influence. And yes I am going to celebrate China moving nearly ¾bil out of poverty, if you’re refusing to appreciate the small wins of AES, then you don’t really care about material improvements to peoples lives.

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                19 hours ago

                “I don’t care for perfect movements, I am simply happy with movements that carry cool aesthetics and red flags with none of the substance.”

                Coolcool