They’re not, they’re distinct concepts that are commonly found expressed in religious practices but are not in of themselves spiritual. I’m sorry I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re saying.
So your assertion is that I should understand that it’s not a religious practice because… it shares traits with many religious and nonreligious practices.
I’m sorry, I don’t think in this case that the confusion is due to a fault on my part :/
They’re not, they’re distinct concepts that are commonly found expressed in religious practices but are not in of themselves spiritual.
You acknowledged that Jungian archetypes are distinct concepts from religious practices and not in themselves spiritual. And yet you don’t understand why some people are saying “Tarot isn’t necessarily religious or spiritual”?
You say “it shares traits with many religious a nonreligious practices” as if you think that’s definitively concludes that it’s inherently religious.
And yet you openly avow satanism and write yourself a pass because it’s “secular” and you completely ignore the fact that by your same argument against tarot, i.e. that it “shares traits with many religious and nonreligious practices,” you would have to consider your own beliefs and practices under the same umbrella.
The confusion is definitely due to a fault on your part. No one else here is confused.
I’m saying you’re way too attached to this and it may be worth exploring, in your own time. This is like if someone latched on to your SN and assume you’re into the dark arts and Loki is your patron.
I was attempting to explore this by engaging with the person who made the assertion directly when you engaged with me, though. If you don’t want to be here, you’re welcome to leave? Alternatively I welcome an explanation instead of a fairly rude dismissal.
(Also I am an open satanist - their conclusion would not be incorrect, which is in part why I chose this username)
They work as excellent prompts for introspection and for helping you to see connections you might have missed before. The output can ofc be entirely non-sensical but if everyone involved is aware they are simply cards then that isn’t really an issue, you just laugh about it and move on.
It’s like rubber ducking in programming really, but for whatever issue you “ask” the cards.
In the meme the scenario is made up and we don’t know if the two individuals believe the cards can be used for something spiritual or not, but it’s just a meme anyways so it doesn’t really matter.
Thank you! That’s roughly what I thought, I appreciate the explanation. I wonder what the rate of spiritual vs. “secular” use of tarot is, I certainly see it treated with a degree of sincerity far more often than not, but there’s a large number of more abstractly spititual people in my social cricles and I assume that’s not the norm.
tarot cards don’t have to be religious/spiritual.
Genuinely I would love to understand your perspective - how are they not a religious practice?
Jungian archetypes and shadow work reflection prompts.
I’m not sure how the presence of ideas promoted by Jung or the concept of guided self-reflection are at all mutually exclusive with religious beliefs.
I don’t see how they’re wedded.
They’re not, they’re distinct concepts that are commonly found expressed in religious practices but are not in of themselves spiritual. I’m sorry I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re saying.
Then you just answered your own question. You really are confused, it’s okay to admit it.
So your assertion is that I should understand that it’s not a religious practice because… it shares traits with many religious and nonreligious practices.
I’m sorry, I don’t think in this case that the confusion is due to a fault on my part :/
You literally said:
You acknowledged that Jungian archetypes are distinct concepts from religious practices and not in themselves spiritual. And yet you don’t understand why some people are saying “Tarot isn’t necessarily religious or spiritual”?
You say “it shares traits with many religious a nonreligious practices” as if you think that’s definitively concludes that it’s inherently religious.
And yet you openly avow satanism and write yourself a pass because it’s “secular” and you completely ignore the fact that by your same argument against tarot, i.e. that it “shares traits with many religious and nonreligious practices,” you would have to consider your own beliefs and practices under the same umbrella.
The confusion is definitely due to a fault on your part. No one else here is confused.
I’m saying you’re way too attached to this and it may be worth exploring, in your own time. This is like if someone latched on to your SN and assume you’re into the dark arts and Loki is your patron.
I was attempting to explore this by engaging with the person who made the assertion directly when you engaged with me, though. If you don’t want to be here, you’re welcome to leave? Alternatively I welcome an explanation instead of a fairly rude dismissal.
(Also I am an open satanist - their conclusion would not be incorrect, which is in part why I chose this username)
I get it. Your literal magical practice > anyone else’s, real or jest.
They work as excellent prompts for introspection and for helping you to see connections you might have missed before. The output can ofc be entirely non-sensical but if everyone involved is aware they are simply cards then that isn’t really an issue, you just laugh about it and move on.
It’s like rubber ducking in programming really, but for whatever issue you “ask” the cards.
In the meme the scenario is made up and we don’t know if the two individuals believe the cards can be used for something spiritual or not, but it’s just a meme anyways so it doesn’t really matter.
Thank you! That’s roughly what I thought, I appreciate the explanation. I wonder what the rate of spiritual vs. “secular” use of tarot is, I certainly see it treated with a degree of sincerity far more often than not, but there’s a large number of more abstractly spititual people in my social cricles and I assume that’s not the norm.