This term paramilitary can take in a wide range of organizations, but is usually applied to forces formed by a government. Groups opposing a government, even when organized along military lines, are more often referred to as guerrillas or insurgents. In countries with weak central governments (such as, in recent times, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, or Congo), warlords may form their own paramilitary forces and take over all local police and military functions. Paramilitary often has a sinister sound today, since it’s also applied to groups of off-duty military or police personnel who carry out illegal violence, often at night, with the quiet support of a government.
group or organization that operates outside a country’s formal military structure. Paramilitaries are typically modeled after military organizations and may have similar training and equipment.
I also belive in the value of words and their meanings. I think a little critical thinking goes a long way.
ICE is not part of our country’s “formal military structure” and it is an force that was “fromed by a government”. They also have military equipment however they do not have similar training yet that is on purpose and doesn’t void the previous points. These are also mostly volunteers who are joining up for a signing bonus and a chance to harm people with impunity. They are an illegitimate force occupying American citys, depoyed by a weak government that is trying to gain authority by force.
They are under the direct control of the government though. A judge could say Ice has to fuck off, and they would by law be forced to fuck off. Maybe if we hit the point where ice is disregarding lawful orders. Even then though, they are following the president’s orders. Under color of law.
Proud boys, 3 percenters, atomwaffen organizing into military like outfits and attacking protests, that would be paramilitary. Ice is just a security service.
Maybe we can agree to disagree here. On my understanding, and to my reading, their being under the direct control of the government makes them not paramilitary. They are security services, with police, the fbi, dea, customs and border protection, and the rest.
They are a goon squad to be sure. Setting the precedent of executing a citizen under false pretense then slandering her as a terrorist, and persecuting her friends and organizations she was with to justify it is a bad precedent. The administration, and the party the president is just a figurehead at this point this doesn’t end with the president, wants to go full nazi, and ice is their aspiring SS. Brownshirts would be the private groups that pursue their critics, although to date the aspiring ones were more like Italy’s blackshirts, less top down control.
I was just going off the dictionary. I do not think ICE would fit any definition of paramilitary. I do not really care enough to get into a big pissing match about it, although I bet I could piss way farther than you.
The establishment democrat cheerleader doesn’t think the ones arguing for new leadership and popular reform are in good faith, got it.
No one cares what you think, about anything, that was part of my point, what you think means nothing until you own up to what you’ve helped do, and explain how you are going to do better from now on.
But why would you? Your leaders don’t. They instruct you how to use emotional arguments and libel to obscure the issue. You never answered the point because you have no answer in reason. Your only arguments are ad hominems, and you just keep lobbing them, knowing enough of the sheep don’t know any better than to believe you, as you drag the united states into a fascist dictatorship.
You aren’t citing a single source.
Here is a second definition from merriam-webster.
And a thrid definition from Encyclopædia Britannica,
Also though your definitions back up what I said do they not? Ice is none of those things.
I also belive in the value of words and their meanings. I think a little critical thinking goes a long way.
ICE is not part of our country’s “formal military structure” and it is an force that was “fromed by a government”. They also have military equipment however they do not have similar training yet that is on purpose and doesn’t void the previous points. These are also mostly volunteers who are joining up for a signing bonus and a chance to harm people with impunity. They are an illegitimate force occupying American citys, depoyed by a weak government that is trying to gain authority by force.
And the word for this is, Paramilitary.
They are under the direct control of the government though. A judge could say Ice has to fuck off, and they would by law be forced to fuck off. Maybe if we hit the point where ice is disregarding lawful orders. Even then though, they are following the president’s orders. Under color of law.
Proud boys, 3 percenters, atomwaffen organizing into military like outfits and attacking protests, that would be paramilitary. Ice is just a security service.
Yes, as is consistent with the definition of a paramilitary I posted above.
Who do you think are signing up to join ice?
Maybe we can agree to disagree here. On my understanding, and to my reading, their being under the direct control of the government makes them not paramilitary. They are security services, with police, the fbi, dea, customs and border protection, and the rest.
They are a goon squad to be sure. Setting the precedent of executing a citizen under false pretense then slandering her as a terrorist, and persecuting her friends and organizations she was with to justify it is a bad precedent. The administration, and the party the president is just a figurehead at this point this doesn’t end with the president, wants to go full nazi, and ice is their aspiring SS. Brownshirts would be the private groups that pursue their critics, although to date the aspiring ones were more like Italy’s blackshirts, less top down control.
I was just going off the dictionary. I do not think ICE would fit any definition of paramilitary. I do not really care enough to get into a big pissing match about it, although I bet I could piss way farther than you.
Which dictionary?
idk whatever startpage gave me under a search, as I checked after you challenged the definition.
I don’t think you are arguing in good faith or with any credibility.
The establishment democrat cheerleader doesn’t think the ones arguing for new leadership and popular reform are in good faith, got it.
No one cares what you think, about anything, that was part of my point, what you think means nothing until you own up to what you’ve helped do, and explain how you are going to do better from now on.
But why would you? Your leaders don’t. They instruct you how to use emotional arguments and libel to obscure the issue. You never answered the point because you have no answer in reason. Your only arguments are ad hominems, and you just keep lobbing them, knowing enough of the sheep don’t know any better than to believe you, as you drag the united states into a fascist dictatorship.