I enjoy Star Wars for specific reasons that I like in entertainment. The ragtag underdog fighting a strong oppressor and winning. The classic fantasy story, but in space. Swords. Small fighters dogfighting more than large ships shooting at each other.
Now, that’s entertainment, in an action fantasy judgement. Would I want to live in a Star Wars universe over a Star Trek universe? Absolutely not. Do I agree with the moral guidelines of either major side of Star Wars? Again, not really. I definitely don’t like the empire, but even the Jedi are too much of religious fundies to me. I also think the lessons/message of Trek is generally better too.
It’s a bit like food that’s tasty but not good for you. I enjoy it, but I’m not claiming it’s the better of the two.
A lot of Star Wars fans are either idolizing the Empire and the Dark Side for their positions of power and control, or the Space Wizards who go out of their way to be naive and get struck down for the better good. If they’re not wearing rebel gear, they’re not default trustworthy.
If someone watches enough Trek to wear the gear and is open about it, they are at least not against diversity and equality in their fantasy choices.
Also, a lot of normies like Star Wars as a normal action franchise, so there’s some general randomness to the sample. Star Trek pretty specifically appeals to that specific type of nerd, there’s a lot more consistency in the results you can expect.
What about the one that has “From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh…”?
For me it would depend on what kind of Star Trek shirt it was. If it’s just a shirt that says Star Trek then not really. But if they’re wearing a fucking Starfleet uniform I will trust them with my goddamn life.
As Star Wars fan and someone who have been following the community for some time, i totally agreed with those people
Star Wars is so heavily merchandised that you really can’t tell anything about someone wearing a shirt with Yoda on it, impulse buy at a Wal-Mart. But show me someone wearing a Riker T-Shirt, and I’ll show you someone who went to a convention or decided to order a shirt off of a website. More likely to be one of us harmless earnest dorks who knows who did what at Tenagra.
Lucas when the merch prevailed
Lucas, with Kenner.
Jokes on all of you…I sport a shirt with Leto the God Emperor of Dune on it.
For the greater good of humanity, I don’t want to see our extinction. Leto truly was the least selfish person/god to ever grace the Duniverse.
Finally, a third worst option.
Star Wars guy might tell you to fuck off, give bad info over confidently, or expect something in return for their help
But God Emperor guy will lead you to a dark alley to shank you to protect the future gene pool from your weakness, and feel good about it.
It’s your fault for not seeing it coming really.
Star Wars is too widely popular for much to be inferred by the shirt, whereas Star Trek fans tend to be more alike : nerdy, generally nice.
With the laugh track edited out:
Can someone tell me what my reaction to this poll should be?
uncontrollable laughter
Thank you, the laugh track detracts from the rest of it.
Thank you! I thought it was just me
Where does 40k fall on this spectrum? Is it just a nope by default or is it dependent on faction or memetics.
You can trust anyone with an admech shirt.
Trust me.
So long as they don’t try to jack my shit by claiming it’s the blessed by the machine god then we’re good.
HEAVILY dependent on faction
I feel this is a very clever joke but I don’t know enough lore to appreciate it.
Less a joke about the lore and more a joke about how some people get really weird about some factions, like the Death Corps of Krieg and the Black Templars who are fan favorites but also attract a very fashy side of the fan base. Personally I’m more of an Armageddon Steel Legion, Blood Ravens, Adeptus Mechanacus type of guy.
People who play Black Templars are always going to be either the most horrible or the sweetest person you have ever met with no inbetween
Inquisition!
Salamanders forever!!!
Not all Star Trek fans are deep thinkers.
Not many Star Wars fans are deep thinkers.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
That’s not fair! The poor blokes won’t even understand they’re being made fun if!
Tbh I was going to reply but I couldn’t think of anything. (I’m a Farscape fan, not sure if that’s related?)
I’m pretty sure that Farscape fans fall into an entirely different Venn diagram.
One that overlaps with stargate?
Or sits within it
The shirt:
Wow, I genuinely LOLed at that. And woke my wife.
I’ve always felt Sheeran looked a lot like Weyoun 6
Eh, I’m not seeing it.
lol fucking autocorrect
This is glorious
Maybe he looks more like Weyoun 4?
I wish that were true. He seems play more component characters than mine.
I’d wear a Blake’s 7 shirt if there was an iconic logo that wasn’t also the emblem of the fascist reigime in-universe.
The bland target logo from Series D doesn’t really appeal to me.
I saw this posted before elsewhere (but can’t find it now). In that version, it was stated this was posted in a Star Wars forum, which makes it doubly hilarious if true.
Not quite. It was posted on Tumblr, by a star wars focused account, with star wars tags, so mainly star wars fans saw it (at first).
At no point during the poll was star wars in the lead, but the poll did breach containment and got seen by most of the nerd community there, which definitely did not help the voting spread.
It had to be tumblr because of the useless included comment as a modern day laugh track
This is such an accurate assessment, wow
Ah, thanks for the background!
I was just about to ask where it was posted…
That is correct. I saw the same reference to the OG post on a SW forum last time this made the rounds.
Perhaps? I recall seeing it on Reddit as well a long while ago.
what about someone in a stargate shirt
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Treat them nice, they probably think all problems are solved with C4.
C4 solves every problem you have but also has a 97% chance of creating an even worse problem.
Makes me think of Jason from The Good Place.
I’m telling you, Molotov cocktails work. Any time I had a problem, and I threw a Molotov cocktail, boom! Right away, I had a different problem.
Just keep applying C4 until you hit that 3%.
That’s who you get your supply from
All three together for an interesting round of fuck/mary/kill.
They better tell me where to find one.
And if another person tells me Chulak without giving me gate access, their butt is going to have a foothold situation.
Stargate shirt would be my homie
Indeed.
What about a Lexx shirt
Horny on main.
What about a Space Cases shirt?
790 shirt, Xev shirt, Xev shirt, or Lyekka shirt?
Cool person. A Wormhole Xtreme shirt…super hoopy frood
Hoopy frood t-shirt, towel and a dressing gown?
I married her, but I guess that’s a personal choice
Jail. Straight to jail.
Suspected rabid imperialist of their favorite air force propaganda less than zero trust.
Stargate SG-1 is a lot more anarchic than Star Trek ever gets. Most of its episodes are about a group of people that almost always relies on knowledge/expertise rather than rank for decisions, trying to do their best to give societies the tools for their own liberation.
In Star Trek, it is presented as enlightened that the protagonists will let a genocide happen if its victims are too primitive to have rights (“prime directive”). In Stargate, every injustice is worth fighting against and every person is worthy of fighting it.
In Star Trek, challenging a captain’s bad decision is misconduct. In Stargate it’s common sense. In Star Trek, slavery gets being reinvented by the good guys because beings aren’t worthy of rights until proven otherwise. In Stargate, slavery requires a revolt.
The main propaganda of Stargate is that the US would facilitate this behavior, rather than seeking its own imperial supremacy.
I understand doubting whether people have this interpretation. At least an uncritical watcher of Star Trek will act like a
white saviorstarfleet officer and help until they find some reason to judge you. Uncritical Stargate watchers might actually believe the US military tries to help people structurally and support them.Shal’kek nem’ron.
Alternative interpretation: SG-1 team is basically the galaxy class cia, fomenting usa-friendly regime change on every planet they encounter.
Formenting in-group-friendly regime change can be good or bad, depending on what sort of behavior is construed as “-friendly”. Some of my best friends forment in-group-friendly regime change.
SG-1 destroyed what would have been a very profitable ally because they were space nazis, and they helped space native Americans protect their land against destructive US mining practices.
Like with any show it’s best to enjoy it critically. I enjoy SG-1 despite it positively depicting a space CIA just like I enjoy TNG despite it positively depicting a space British Royal Navy flagship.
Yup.
I get where you’re coming from, but I’d like to draw your attention to this particular exchange from SG-1 S01E16:
Colonel, the United States is not in the business of interfering in other people’s affairs.
…Since when?
They were always a little coy about the propaganda angle.
