I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.
The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.
Liberals gonna liberal.
I’d still rather have a capitalist than a fascist.
But milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.
I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani’s momentum continues.
I wouldn’t vote for Gavin if he was the Democratic candidate. He is just as horrible as the other Democrats.
We need true change and true leaders that will change the government to work for the working class instead of the wealthy.
Jon Stewart, 2028.
The problem with Reagan and Trump isn’t that they were actors. The problem is that they were complete pieces of shit long before they were elected.
Actor-presidents have demonstrated a natural propensity for revolutionary disruption of entrenched attitudes. Reagan completely fucked over economic policy; Trump is completely fucking over the fundamental concept of democracy.
Imagine that same degree of revolutionary disruption moving us toward egalitarianism rather than corpo-fascism.
With the latest court ruling saying trump can fire anyone he’s wants despite laws against it, the next Dem president should just go full tilt and fire every right wing judge, every Republican voting government employee, just straight purge and let the supreme Court try and justify why it was ok in December 2025 but not 2028. Fuck we’re still have more than 3 years left of this shitty ass government.
Jon Stewart is no progressive, and some of his takes are frustratingly bad. Just this Monday, he made the case to his interviewee that there’s basically nothing we can do about climate change except maybe a little carbon scrubbing after the fact.
He makes his position clear at 7:50 of that interview that he defers to climate scientists on the issue and continues to ask the writer “what can we do”? Which in my mind is all we can hope for in a politician.
It seems your referencing his suggested response at 8:30. But he then works off her response, that there is no clear path forward, which is inline with his previously stated position frankly.
I guess I expect more from a progressive leader than “Welp what can we possibly do on climate in the face of consumerism?” I think there is a clear path forward, and that’s making investments to move off of fossil fuels. Part of that means stopping government handouts to fossil fuel companies, stopping the lowering of CAFE standards, etc.
And before the usual: “Oh but we don’t have the political will.” … I’d counter that, yes, the mainstream Republicans and Democrats that are beholden to fossil fuel companies don’t have the political will, because of course they don’t. They know on what side their bread is buttered. And that’s exactly why we have to stop electing them and primary them all, putting progressives in their place.
(I also wasn’t particularly impressed with the interviewee in that interview, even if she did have some good comedic timing. I realize she’s a writer and not a politician or talking head used to generating pithy soundbites, but still.)
China appears to have benefited more from Reagan’s policies than the US.
Another reason to not vote for Newsom. He may be younger than Pelosi and the other Geronocrats, but he is still corrupt as hell.
If this is the Democratic candidate, and there is no adequate progressive 3rd party candidate, 2028 will be the first election I sit out since 2000.
I am DONE accepting milquetoast corporate right wing democrats just because they aren’t literally insane. John Kerry was my first, and Kamala Harris is my last. I swear to fucking god.
I feel that.
It fucking blows my mind that with all Trump is doing, you people STILL refuse to learn what happens when good is positioned to be the enemy of perfect.
Heads up bud-
There will NEVER be a candidate you will like. Because ALL of them know how the game is played. YOU don’t. And as a result of this, from your perspective, they will all fail you in one way or another… guaranteed.
So go ahead and pout and stay at home all because a perfect candidate isn’t running. The rest of us will be voting against fascism while you’re enjoy those cartoons on Election Day.
I guess you missed the part where I said I’ve done exactly what you are suggesting for nearly 30 years now. I mean, what’s the definition of insanity, again?
I’m not looking for a perfect, ideal candidate. I’m looking for a candidate that doesn’t continue to help the right shift the Overton window further in their direction. Especially in the case of corporate power and campaign finance. That’s it. Bill Clinton was why my first vote was cast was for Ralph Nader. George Bush, and everyone blaming him on people like me, was why I “fell in line” with the Democrats. I’m done playing their games until they’re done playing the Game you are referring to. Democrats have become complacent, feckless, and lazy. They need to learn how to earn a vote like mine again. Zohran understood this. Sorry, I’m voting for whomever I feel like from now on.
Oh I didn’t miss anything. And my oh my that’s certainly a lovely paragraph of hot-button topics you got there! Straight out of the Far-Leftists Playbook that outraged so many into not voting against fascism.
The Left is not the reason Kamala lost, the facts DO NOT SUPPORT this narrative. You are spreading misinformation because it is part of a story that riles you up and “feels” right to you, it is irresponsible.
Back up your accusations or stop pushing this narrative.
Agree to disagree.
Where is your proof then?
Yeah, I feel you. I also feel the person responding to. In this case, if we’re going to reflect on the past, I’d like to see a considerable share of the blame placed on the millions (what 84 million?) that actually voted FOR Prince Don. If we’re looking to the future, I’d suggest that any person seeking voter support be meaningful and have good faith effort solutions.
Awful hard to convince people to care if their ending is the same either way.The ending is NOT the same either way. And suggesting it would be is in very bad faith.
The shit we’re dealing with would not have happened under Kamala’s presidency.
Fuck you sleeze bag
This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
His sales pitch is centered around “I’m not a Republicantm!”
Most people on this planet don’t lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.
On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it’s between him and
<insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I’ll vote for him.However, I’d imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of “friend” of the poor and the middle class.
You’re not voting for him. You’re voting against the other guy.
demnotcracy sucks.
1.5 party rule is in a binary context. First past the post is not floating point; it is integer. That truncates to bits. Sounds more like a cultural norms disease of spurious sophistry through self-denigration.
THATS. HOW. TRUMP. WON.
How have ppl not realized not being Trump can’t be your entire platform!?!?
The only reason Newsom has had any interest from the broader electorate is that he was outspoken in opposing Trump. The minute he enters the primary and starts spouting the same valueless, donor-approved, corporate drivel as Kamala, Jefferies, Schumer, etc., he’s going to flame out fast.
Hot take: he isn’t good but would have been better than Biden during that debate
I don’t think, for as long as I live, I will ever stop being mad at whoever let Biden on stage in that condition.
This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.
Yuck.
Slimey as fuck I hate that guy
